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Ms Suzanne Bradley
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HM Treasury
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29 January 2001

 

Dear Ms Bradley,

This is a request under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information, which I am directing to you as the Treasury's 'openness contact'. I would be grateful if you could refer it to the appropriate person within the department.

Could I please be supplied with (a) the names of all staff currently working at the Treasury on secondment from bodies outside of central government (b) the names of the body from which each has come and (c) brief details of their responsibilities.

Following a similar request which I made to the DTI some months ago, I understand (see the enclosed letter) that it is now government policy that such information should be released.

Yours sincerely,

 

Maurice Frankel
Director

 

 


 

 

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Mr Maurice Frankel
Director
The Campaign for Freedom of Information
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1 February 2001

 

Dear Mr Frankel

Request for Information

Thank you for your letter of 29 January in which you requested information under the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information regarding staff currently working on secondment from organisations outside of central government.

I have passed your request to Peter Thomas who works in our Personnel Management Team and has a particular focus on secondment issues. He will be replying to your letter shortly.

Yours sincerely,

 

Suzanne Bradley
Information Management Team

 

 


 

 

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Mr Maurice Frankel
Director
The Campaign for Freedom of Information
Suite 102
16 Baldwins Gardens
London  EC1N 7RJ

 

7 February 2001

 

Information on Individuals on Secondment

Dear Mr Frankel

Further to your request for information on secondees working within HM Treasury, which has been passed to the Career Development Team.

I would be grateful if you could confirm why you want the information and what it will be used for.

In order to collect the information you require we will need to write to the individuals concerned and we would like to explain our reasons for collecting the data.

If you need any further information please do not hesitate to contact me

Yours sincerely,

 

Suzanne Garoghan
Development Adviser
Career Development Team

 

 


 

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Ms Suzanne Garoghan
Career Development Team
HM Treasury
Allington Towers
19 Allington Street
London  SW1E 5EB

 

12 February 2001

 

Dear Ms Garoghan,

Information on individuals on secondment

Thank you for your letter of February 7 enquiring why I am seeking information about secondees and what I will use the information for.

The Code of Practice on Access to Government Information commits Government Departments to releasing information on request, unless disclosure would not be in the public interest for one of the reasons specified in the code. The applicant's purpose in seeking the information is not a relevant consideration.

As a result of my original request for information on this topic to the DTI, the Government has revised its policy and concluded that information about the identities and roles of secondees should now be disclosed, and that the individuals concerned should be asked for their consent to the disclosure. (My own view is that it is that this information might have to be disclosed under the code even without consent, unless there are specific reasons - e.g. risk to personal safety - why a particular individual's details should not be released.)

In light of this, I wonder whether, in writing to secondees, you need to say anything more than that "in light of the Government's commitment to openness and the requirements of the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information the Government has decided to make these details publicly available, except where an individual has a particular reason not to consent to the disclosure".

In general terms, the value of releasing this particular information is surely to reassure the public that there is no conflict of interest between the privileged access to official information available to secondees and their companies' commercial interests. The potential risks are recognised in the Cabinet Office's 'Interchange Good Practice Guide' which states:

"Individuals attached to departments under the Interchange Initiative should ensure that in the course of their duty there is no conflict of interest that will cause embarrassment either to their organisation or to the department or agency. This is particularly important for secondments."

Yours sincerely,

 

Maurice Frankel
Director

 

 


 

 

CONFIDENTIAL

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Mr Maurice Frankel
Director
The Campaign for Freedom of Information
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16 Baldwins Gardens
London  EC1N 7RJ

 

6 March 2001

 

Dear Mr Frankel

Individuals on Secondment

Thank you for your letter of 12th February 2001. May I apologise for the delay in replying to you and responding to your request for information.

I am currently in the process of obtaining the information you require however, due to some administrative problems this task is proving more difficult than anticipated.

We aim to forward the information to you by 23rd March 2001.

Please let me know if you have any queries or this deadline is not acceptable.

Yours sincerely,

 

Suzanne Garoghan
Career Development Team

 

 

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CONFIDENTIAL

H M Treasury crest Allington Towers
19 Allington Street
London SW1E 5EB

 

Mr Maurice Frankel
Director
The Campaign for Freedom of Information
Suite 102
16 Baldwins Gardens
London  EC1N 7RJ

 

22 May 2001

 

Information on individuals on secondment

Dear Mr Frankel

Further to my letter of 6th March 2001 regarding the above.

I apologise for the delay in responding to your request for information. I now detail below the information required.

There are currently 15 individuals seconded to HM Treasury from non-Government organisations.

Under the terms of the Data Protection Act I have only provided details of those individuals who have given their consent to release this information. This information is attached.

I hope this provides the information you need. If you need any further clarification please do not hesitate to contact me.

Yours sincerely,

 

Suzanne Garoghan
Career Development Team

 

 

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NameHome EmployerResponsibilities
Paul GreggUniversity of BristolPart time policy development work in the areas of labour markets, low pay, worklessness, working age benefit reform and child poverty.
Mark SmithReserve Bank of New ZealandEconomist working on policy development in the area of macroeconomic policy and international finance.
Nick BuxtonPKFAccountancy support to spending teams in public services.
Trevor AshendenNational Audit OfficeAccountancy Advisor within central finance.
Ciaran MartinNational Audit OfficeResource budgeting policy and implementation with General Expenditure Policy team.
Richard MaddisonFSAPlanning, budgeting and policy author in financial services reform.
Stephen HoganLondon Borough of LewishamPolicy adviser in Local Government team.

 

 

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Suzanne Garoghan
Career Development Team
HM Treasury
Allington Towers
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14 June 2001

 

Dear Ms Garoghan,

Thank you for your letter of May 22 identifying 7 of the 15 individuals seconded to the Treasury.

However, the identities of 8 of the 15 individuals have been withheld, because the individuals concerned have not agreed to be identified. You suggest that this is because the Data Protection Act (DPA) does not allow the Treasury to disclose such information without the individuals' consent. For the reasons set out below, I do not agree that the DPA has this effect. I am therefore asking for the Treasury to review this decision, as required by the code.

Leaving the legal argument aside, I am extremely surprised to hear that more than half of those seconded to the Treasury wish to conceal their identities from the public. This contrasts with the position in the DTI where, following a similar request by the Campaign, all 112 secondees have, without exception, agreed to be identified. The implication is either that most of the Treasury secondees believe their placement raises questions that they would prefer were not asked, or that they are reflecting a reluctant approach to openness on the part of the Treasury.

My surprise at this response is all the greater on discovering that at least one of the individuals whose identities are being withheld is readily identifiable from published sources. The Institute for Fiscal Studies' website identifies Julian McCrae, a senior research economist, as a secondee ("Julian is on secondment to HM Treasury until April 2001"1.  I understand that Mr McCrae's secondment is still continuing. It seems bizarre that the identities of seconded staff should be protected on data protection (ie privacy) grounds even where this information has been widely disclosed, presumably with the individuals' agreement.

In light of this, I should like to make a further request. Could you please supply me (if necessary after deleting names of the secondees involved) with copies of (a) the letter sent to them inviting consent to disclosure, and (b) their replies and any subsequent correspondence with them about this. Please treat this as a request under the terms of the Code of Practice on Access to Government Information.

Could I also point out that my original request was not merely for the names of the individuals, but for their organisations and responsibilities. The last two classes of information could have been provided, even without the names. The Treasury has previously released such information in Parliamentary Answers (eg 10/12/98, col 301), and I would appreciate it if this information could be supplied to me promptly.

Finally, I wonder if you could explain why the information which you have provided is marked "Confidential". This classification also appears on your letters of March 6 and May 22. I should be interested to know the rationale for replying in this way, given that my request has been made under the open government code of practice, with a view to making the information public (and I shall in fact be making it public).

Turning to the Data Protection Act, I agree that the names of the individuals on secondment are 'personal data' under the Act. However, the Act does not prohibit the publication of personal data without consent. It allows disclosure, so long as this does not breach any of the data protection principles.

The most relevant principle appears to be the first. This requires that disclosure must be fair and lawful and meet one of the conditions in Schedule 2 of the DPA.

One important indicator of whether disclosure is fair is whether the individual has been deceived or misled about the prospect of it occurring.2  This might be the case if secondees were guaranteed anonymity on being offered their post; or promised that the fact that they were not career civil servants would deliberately be concealed from the public. There is no such suggestion in the Cabinet Office guidance on secondment, or in its proposed terms and conditions for secondees.3  On the contrary, secondees have in the past often been identified in Parliamentary Answers.4  This is likely to have created an expectation that their names could be made public. In this case disclosure could hardly be 'unfair'.

I am sure that the fact that these individuals are on secondment, and not career civil servants, is already widely known within the department, and to the professional and business contacts of the individuals concerned. No doubt those who speak at conferences refer to it in the biographical notes circulated to the audience. Former secondees seem to give this fact particular prominence in their CVs.5  Secondment to the Treasury appears to be regarded as a desirable career move, not something whose disclosure would embarrass or disadvantage those involved. If the Treasury decided, in the interests of accountability, to disclose their names I do not see how this could be unfair.

Nor would it be unlawful unless there was an explicit obligation of confidentiality, which I take it is not the case.

As to the question of 'consent', it is clear from Schedule 2 of the DPA that this is not required so long as one of the conditions in paragraphs 2 to 6 of that Schedule is met. Two conditions are particularly relevant:

  • paragraph 5(c), permits disclosure if it is necessary for the functions of a government department.


  • paragraph 6(1) permits disclosure if it is necessary for the legitimate interests of the person to whom the data are disclosed, and the disclosure is not unwarranted because of prejudice to the rights and freedoms or legitimate interests of the data subject.

A precedent here is provided by the publication of civil servants' identities and functions in the Civil Service yearbook. I understand that this is done without the individual consent of the officials concerned. The Cabinet Office say they regard this disclosure as justified under paragraphs 5(c) and 6(1) of DPA Schedule 2 (see enclosed letter). The disclosure of the identities of secondees would be entirely consistent with this approach.

There are particular reasons why the identities of secondees should be known. Although some secondees come from the public sector, others may come from private bodies and may raise questions about commercial advantage or even conflicts of interest. They may be working on policy issues affecting their company or industry; their access may give them an advantage in securing contracts or clients; or they may be in a position to influence regulatory decisions affecting their company. The risks are recognised in the Cabinet Office's 'Interchange Good Practice Guide' which states that individuals "should ensure that in the course of their duty there is no conflict of interest that will cause embarrassment either to their organisation or to the department or agency. This is particularly important for secondments".

Allegations that companies had benefited improperly as a result of secondments were made in the press last year, when the Observer reported on 25/6/00 that: "Oil companies, financial consultants and building firms who have 'donated' staff free to the Treasury have won lucrative government contracts and profited from crucial policy changes". (See attached article.)

The best answer to such allegations is transparency - to demonstrate that conflicts of interest do not occur. The secrecy achieves the opposite effect. Giving individual secondees the right to veto any disclosure of their identities, which so many of them have chosen to exercise, can only encourage the suspicion that the individuals or their organisations, or the Treasury itself, have something to hide.

There is another reason for openness. People dealing with government departments generally assume that they are dealing with career civil servants, not with representatives of business organisations who will return to their companies in a few months time. There may be circumstances when they will not be prepared to share information with the latter, for example, if they are raising a matter in which the sponsoring company has a direct interest. It cannot be in the public interest to conceal this fact from them. The effect may be to encourage anyone who has such reservations to treat all Treasury staff with caution.

I understand that following our request to the DTI, government policy on identifying secondees has been reviewed and that new guidance is to be issued advising departments that they should identify those seconded to them. By accepting the need for the openness, I submit that the government is confirming that such disclosure is "necessary for the exercise of any functions of...a government department". This is the test under paragraph 5(c) of Schedule 2. The disclosure would therefore not contravene the first data protection principle.

Disclosure is also justified under paragraph 6(1) of that Schedule. It is important for the public to have confidence that companies are not benefiting improperly from such secondments. There is a "legitimate interest" in this information being provided to the public. The only grounds for withholding it would be if there is unwarranted prejudice to the rights of the individuals concerned. Unless exceptional circumstances exist (eg someone's safety is at risk) there would be no such prejudice. On the contrary, knowledge that an individual has been seconded to the Treasury will normally enhance that person's professional reputation and their value to their employer. Indeed some employers regard it as an active selling point.6

The other potentially relevant data protection principle is the second, which requires that personal data must not be processed for any purpose which is incompatible with the purpose for which it was obtained. I am sure that the purpose for which government holds information about its staff must reflect the requirement that government act in an accountable manner.

This request, however, involves a more explicit compatibility of purposes. The passage from "Interchange Good Practice Guide" quoted above indicates that an important consideration in selecting individuals for secondment is to avoid conflict of interest. The same point is made in the proposed terms and conditions which state that secondees must accept the rules governing civil servants' conduct "as if you were a civil servant" adding that their conduct "should not foster the suspicion of a conflict of interest".7  This suggests that the purpose for which my request is made (ie to demonstrate whether any conflict of interest arises) is compatible with the purpose for which the information was collected in the first place. This too suggests that secondees' identities can be disclosed without breaching the Data Protection Act.

I understand the Treasury's policy is that reviews under the open government code are carried out by a member of the Management Board from a different division from that in which the original decision was taken, and that the target for response is 20 working days. Given that the response to my original request took 4 months (compared to a 20 day target), I would appreciate it if the review could be carried out as quickly as possible.

Yours sincerely,

 

Maurice Frankel
Director

 

Endnotes

  1. http://www.ifs.org.uk/staff/julian_m.shtml


  2. Data Protection Act 1998, Schedule 1, Part II, paragraph 1(1)


  3. Cabinet Office, 'Interchange Good Practice Guide', 1998, Annex 8


  4. See Hansard, Commons, Written Answers at 11/2/99, col 405 (naming DTI secondees); 10/12/98, col 286 (naming DfEE secondees); 9/12/98, col 223 (FCO secondees); 21/4/99, col 546 (DETR secondees); 14/12/98, col 333 (Scottish Office secondees); and 14/12/98, col 323 (MOD secondees)


  5. Several of which are on the Internet sites of the firms which employ them.


  6. The accountancy firm PKF says on its web site: "Through the secondment of key staff to HM Treasury and first-hand experience of advising on the introduction of RAB (resource accounting and budgeting) in a number of government departments and other public bodies, we have built up a strong team in this field". www.pkf.co.uk/main/public.html. A current PKF secondee, Nick Buxton, is amongst those who have agreed to their identities being released.


  7. Annex 8, paragraphs 1 and 11

 

 


 

 

CONFIDENTIAL

H M Treasury crest Allington Towers
19 Allington Street
London SW1E 5EB

 

Mr Maurice Frankel
Director
The Campaign for Freedom of Information
Suite 102
16 Baldwins Gardens
London  EC1N 7RJ

 

18 June 2001

 

Information on individuals on secondment

Dear Mr Frankel

Further to your letter of 14th June 2001 regarding the above.

We are currently looking into the points you raise and will respond to your request by 6th July 2001.

Yours sincerely,

 

Suzanne Garoghan
Career Development Team

 

 

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CONFIDENTIAL

H M Treasury crest Allington Towers
19 Allington Street
London SW1E 5EB

 

Mr Maurice Frankel
Director
The Campaign for Freedom of Information
Suite 102
16 Baldwins Gardens
London  EC1N 7RJ

 

7 August 2001

 

Information on individuals on secondment

Dear Mr Frankel

Further to our letter of 18th June 2001 regarding the above I apologise for the delay in responding to your request.

I am writing to confirm that we are still in the process of clarifying our position on disclosure of individual details. As soon as we are in a position to provide more details we will be in contact with you.

Yours sincerely,

 

Pete Thomas
Personnel Managment Team

 

 

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H M Treasury crest Allington Towers
19 Allington Street
London SW1E 5EB

 

Mr Maurice Frankel
Director
The Campaign for Freedom of Information
Suite 102
16 Baldwins Gardens
London  EC1N 7RJ

 

8 October 2001

 

Dear Mr Frankel

OPEN GOVERNMENT REQUEST ON TREASURY SECONDEE INFORMATION

You wrote to Suzanne Garoghan on 14 June asking the Treasury to review its decision to withhold information on those secondees who had not agreed to be identified.

We have reviewed this decision in the light of your request and have concluded that we are able to publish full information on Treasury secondees without infringing the terms of the Data Protection Act 1998.

In considering your request we have to review very carefully the restrictions in the Act on processing personal data without the consent of the data subject, against the requirements of the open government code and our own wish to provide full information. As you are aware, one of the fundamental conditions in Schedule 2 to the 1998 Act for disclosure of personal data is the that the data subject must consent to the publication. However, in view of other provisions of schedule 2 to the 1998 Act (paragraph 5 (c) and 6 (1)) we have concluded that it is legitimate to put this information into the public domain, without consent, in pursuit of a policy of openness, accountability and transparency.

In line with this decision we have today published information on all non-central government secondees on our public website. The website address is www.hm-treasury.gov.uk. For ease of reference I attach a hard copy of the current list of secondees.

We will maintain the policy of openness by updating the information on the website as individuals move on and have included a provision for the disclosure of this information in the contracts for future secondees.

I am sorry we have been unable to provide this information sooner but, in addition to the necessary consultation, we have had to synchronise the publication of secondee information with the response to a Parliamentary Question covering similar ground so as not to pre-empt the publication of information to Parliament.

Given that the information, you have requested by your open government request, is now fully in the public domain and available to you we assume you will no longer wish to pursue your open government request.

I am copying this letter to Suzanne Garoghan and Phillip Mind here.

 

Kate Jenkins
Information Management Team

 

 

 


 

 

SECONDEES TO HM TREASURY FROM OUTSIDE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT

 

NameStart/End DateHome EmployerResponsibilities
Trevor Ashenden03/4/00 - 02/4/02National Audit Commission (NAO)Accountancy advisor to Treasury Teams
Rachel Austin24/9/01 - 23/9/03Deloitte ToucheAdvice on tax policy
Paul Bilton13/8/01 - 12/2/03NAOAssisting on policy development on local government matters
Dee Bingham24/9/01 - 28/12/01Tidy Britain Group (Charity)Assisting with the public space cross cutting review
Nick Bloom24/9/01 - 23/4/02Institute of Fiscal StudiesAdvice on tax policy
Graeme Brown26/2/01 - 31/8/02Kent County CouncilPolicy Advice Local Government
Nick Buxton05/6/00 - 04/6/02Pannell Kerr Foster ServicesAccountancy Support to spending teams in public services
Steven Cain04/1/00 - 03/1/02NAOAccountancy Advisor, Central Accountancy Team
Nigel Fawcett12/2/01 - 11/11/01Financial Services AuthorityPolicy Advice Financial Services Regulation
Paul Gregg24/5/99 - University of BristolPart time Advisor on Labour Market Issues
Paul Kennedy15/11/99FSAPart time Advisor in Finance Services Regulation
Birone Lynch23/4/01 - 30/11/02Bank of EnglandPublic Sector Finances, Budget and Public Finances
Richard Maddison26/10/00 - 30/11/02FSAProject Planning and Budgets, FSMA Tribunal and Legal Assistance Scheme, and Policy author for the Exemptions Order
Ciaran Martin10/1/00 - 09/1/02NAOResource Budgeting Issues, General Expenditure Policy Team
Simon Pink06/8/01 - 05/2/03NAOAssist policy development on central and cultural departments
Colin Stratton08/1/01 - 07/1/03DaLASER (District Auditor)Central Accountancy Support to Treasury Teams
David Watkins10/1/00 - 09/1/02NAOAccountancy Policy Manager. Implementation of GAAP - based accounting policies for taxation and central Government Accounts
Peter Westaway01/9/01 - 31/12/01 (4 days a week)Bank of EnglandPolicy advice on Economic & Monetary Union

 

 

 

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